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Bunger Henry Letterman 
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I'm not asking how many people want Danny Hall fired. I want to know, PHYSICALLY, what is going on to cause us to lose games we should at least be competitive and have some fire in. I don't want some vague, hand-wavering, comment like, we just choke, we just come out flat. I want to know with calculations, logic, 8 by 10 color glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one telling what each one is, what exactly is causing us to lose these games every year?
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Vespidie Member
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In the last game, lack of focus caused the physical errors that took place. After the Ugag jumped on top in the first at bat, I think our guys were done. If you want to look at something more concrete, our lack of quality depth at the pitchers spot told the story during our tournament run. In order to win a 3-5 game tournament being played in a span of 3 days, you better have defense and solid pitching. The last game we had neither. We need to develop quality pitching in order to be able to compete and advance in tournament play. You aren't going to be able to recruit quality pitching because the studs go in the MLB draft. Hopefully our younger pitchers will use this experience to get ready for next years run for the World Series.
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awbuzz Member
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...and he pain is compounded as the mutts make the CWS.  Last edited on Mon Jun 9th, 2008 02:24 pm by awbuzz |
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Double B Administrator 
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After UGA took the early lead the expressions on Hall's face and his body language were terrible. Now I'm not a body language expert but you didn't have to be one to see the look of, "here we go again" and resignation of the inevitable loss. Unacceptable.
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yellowbritchies Letterman 
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As Bill Clinton would say: I too feel your pain , Tech baseball fans. The bottom line is that Hall is not that bad a coach. Tech baseball players, for what ever reason when faced with a do or die game against Ugay just seem to fold. Hell, we all knew it was over when we lost that first game to them in Athens and I believe the players knew it to,and Hall was powerless to change their mind set. Also, don't forget, Ugay is a very good baseball team. This is their 3rd CWS in the last 5 years. That is the difference between Tech's sports programs and Ugay's, in any situation, their teams are more consistent and have a winning attitude and they believe they can win. God only knows, I hope Tech can get there one of these days and us fans can walk the walk again
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Vespidie Member
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yellowbritchies wrote: As Bill Clinton would say: I too feel your pain , Tech baseball fans. The bottom line is that Hall is not that bad a coach. Tech baseball players, for what ever reason when faced with a do or die game against Ugay just seem to fold. Hell, we all knew it was over when we lost that first game to them in Athens and I believe the players knew it to,and Hall was powerless to change their mind set. Also, don't forget, Ugay is a very good baseball team. This is their 3rd CWS in the last 5 years. That is the difference between Tech's sports programs and Ugay's, in any situation, their teams are more consistent and have a winning attitude and they believe they can win. God only knows, I hope Tech can get there one of these days and us fans can walk the walk again Good points. Hall is a good baseball coach. He's not the one that has to make plays....his players do. His players have to go into any and all situations with a "can do" attitude regarding the ability to win the game. That's why you play the games. Ugag wasn't chosen as a top 8 seed because of their nasty mascot....they have guys that can play the game and yes, because they can play the game, or gotten hot at the right time or whatever other cliche' one wants to throw out, they have gotten to the CWS in 3 out of the last 5 years. I'll give them credit for that. When our guys can do the same, I'll give them their due credit also.
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Buzz Kill Member 
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Vespidie wrote:yellowbritchies wrote:As Bill Clinton would say: I too feel your pain , Tech baseball fans. The bottom line is that Hall is not that bad a coach. Tech baseball players, for what ever reason when faced with a do or die game against Ugay just seem to fold. Hell, we all knew it was over when we lost that first game to them in Athens and I believe the players knew it to,and Hall was powerless to change their mind set. Also, don't forget, Ugay is a very good baseball team. This is their 3rd CWS in the last 5 years. That is the difference between Tech's sports programs and Ugay's, in any situation, their teams are more consistent and have a winning attitude and they believe they can win. God only knows, I hope Tech can get there one of these days and us fans can walk the walk again I hear what you guys are saying, and I can't say you guys are 100 percent wrong. As much as I hate to admit it, the mutts deserve SOME credit (accent on SOME). But let's face it. There is absolutely NO reason we shouldn't have won at least one game with two chances to do so, and I'm afraid coaching plays a big part in that. Yes, the players make (or don't make) plays, but take a look at some of the teams we've had over the years that have failed in the postseason. We've had PLENTY of guys who can make plays. I'm not even looking at this year in particular so much as the, what is now? Five times we've played the stinkin' mutts with the season on the line. And how many times have we won? Once? You can't tell me they had a better team than ours ALL those times. Hell, that UGAg team that beat us in the supers at Rusty C in 2004. There's no way in hell that team should've even competed with us, let alone swept us. That Tech team had two guys already up in the majors (Micah Owings and Brandon Boggs), another who has had a couple cups of coffee, and who is likely close to sticking permanently (Eric Patterson), plus promising prospects like Andrew Kown, Clifton Remole, etc. And let's look at this year's situation. UGAg has a good team, with several good players don't get me wrong. But I STILL think their getting a national seed was highly overrated. They got to Omaha by beating us (no big deal for them, apparently) and getting perhaps the easiest Super Regional opponent (If they can get to the championship round in a bracket that includes Miami, F$U and Stanford, then and only then will I be impressed). They'd lost three straight games after getting beat by Lipscomb and nearly got bounced by Louisville, having to use up several of their pitchers. They threw Nick Mongtomery, a guy who hadn't pitched more than 3 1/3 innings in an outing HIS ENTIRE CAREER and had an astronomical ERA. Yet he looks like Cy friggin' Young against us TWICE (including the regular season Turner Field game). Once that happened, I knew we were toast the next night, and sure enough, we didn't even compete. I hate to say it, but it doesn't matter who is in the uniforms. THAT sort of things happens seemingly every year. I think Yellow Britches is right. It seems like everytime Hall's group sees the stolen Green Bay Packer G on the opposition hats and hears that incessant barking, they lose control of their bodily functions, and I'm afraid that comes from the top down. I'm also getting sick of seeing it. Admittedly, Hall's team is hardly alone in this phenomenon these days (certainly not in the sports anyone cares about). But we ran off the Mediocre One because the same sickness infected the football program. I'm hopeful CPJ is the man to change that attitude, but recognize it won't happen overnight. With Hewitt, the same phobia only seems to happen when we play them up in Athens. We're pretty much OK when we play them at home. I've defended Danny Hall many years because he HAS had plenty of positives over the years, including actually getting us to Omaha three times. But it's gotten to the point where I'm ready to say enough is enough. I'm tired seeing the same thing over and over and over again. I'm tired of getting matched up with the mutts seemingly every year and knowing exactly how it's going to end up, with us winding up like this  .As much as I hate to say it, it may be time for a change in atmosphere, and that starts at the top. Sorry for the vent, but it's been over a week, and I'm still P.O.ed about it. To quote George C. Scott from the movie "Patton," "Alright. Now you sons a bitches know how I feel." Last edited on Wed Jun 11th, 2008 06:57 pm by Buzz Kill |
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yellowbritchies Letterman
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Just damn Buzz Kill, I'd almost forgotten about that g_ _ d_ _ n super regional at Russ Chandler. I agree, Tech had the best team and got put out in 2 games (if I remember correctly). I went to both games and had to watch those sob fans bark and ridcule us Tech fans and there was not a damn thing we could do but take it. Home field,best team on paper and we still lose!
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Buzz Kill Member
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yellowbritchies wrote:Just damn Buzz Kill, I'd almost forgotten about that g_ _ d_ _ n super regional at Russ Chandler. I agree, Tech had the best team and got put out in 2 games (if I remember correctly). I went to both games and had to watch those sob fans bark and ridcule us Tech fans and there was not a damn thing we could do but take it. Home field,best team on paper and we still lose! I WISH I could forget about that super, but that's the most glaring example of what I'm talking about, though the losing to them (and Rider, for cryin' out loud) at home in 1987 with a team that featured Ty Griffin, Riccardo Ingram, K.G. White and Jim Poole was also pretty galling. But then, we can't lay THAT one at Danny Hall's feet as it happened before he got here.
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Bunger Henry Letterman
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Players come and go. What is the one constant? The coach. It's not that we somehow randomly every year end up getting only players who have talent but lack the heart to win the clutch games. It's not that teams like Georgia randomly end up with good players who play well in the clutch. It's a culture that has infested the program. That culture has an epicenter. It starts with one man. Danny Hall.
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Vespidie Member
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Bunger Henry wrote: Players come and go. What is the one constant? The coach. It's not that we somehow randomly every year end up getting only players who have talent but lack the heart to win the clutch games. It's not that teams like Georgia randomly end up with good players who play well in the clutch. It's a culture that has infested the program. That culture has an epicenter. It starts with one man. Danny Hall. I don't want to compare apples to oranges, but this sounds eerily familiar to the Atlanta Braves run of 14 straight divisional titles and only 1 World Championship to show for it. Baseball is a funny game. More so than in the other "major" sports, games are won by so-called lesser talented teams. Circumstances play a huge part in determining the ultimate outcome of a baseball "series". For example, if our pitching rotation would have been different, the final outcome might have been different.....but we'll never know that for sure. That was a coaching decision, but a fine line must be toed when changing lineups, rotations, etc. Believe it or not, it is the pitcher's job to disrupt a hitter's timing just enough to keep him off the bases. In the last 2 games, our pitcher's weren't disrupting anything and their pitchers were doing a great job against us. Ask the Ugag hitters and they'd probably say that it looked like hitting beach balls. Hopefully our younger pitchers learned a valuable lesson about what it takes to compete and play championship tournament baseball. A baseball game is not dictated by momentum created by a "coach" that needs to get his team up to play. The game is generally determined by the team that has the better pitching and defense on that particular day. Were the errors and inability to get a clutch hit the coach's fault...or maybe our guys just "nutted" up, or choked - to use another common term. Whatever the cause, odds weren't in our favor at all --- at Ugag, we had no pitching, and the Ugaggers lost their first game,which obviously motivated them to do well or they were done. In the end, I hate it that our guys are not playing now, but hopefully they will come back with a chip on their shoulder and be ready to play baseball up to their capability. If that happens and they catch a few breaks along the way, then maybe they'll be able to advance to the World Series next year.
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jmacaroni Member
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For what it's worth, Hall has quite an impressive bio sketch on Wikipedia: Danny Hall's accomplishments put him in the annals of all-time great Georgia Tech coaches. He has compiled a 611-273(.691) record, has led Tech to post-season play 12 out of 14 seasons, and has taken Tech to its only College World Series appearances in 1994, 2000, and 2006. Over the last three seasons, Tech has led the ACC with a 74-38 conference record. This includes a school record 25 consecutive conference wins in the 2004 season. Hall's 611 wins as head coach make him the winningest head coach in all of Tech sports history. Hall, volleyball's Bond Shymansky, and softball's Sharon Perkins are the only current head coaches at Tech with winning records in Clean, Old-Fashioned Hate. lmao. maybe it should be updated.
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blackprix Letterman 
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Good coaches take what they have and can gain success above and beyond talent. Personally, IMO the Dawgs have a better baseball coach than we do. Perno is very good at what he does for GA. Hall has had many opportunities w/better talent and he has failed ... bottomline. There just comes a time to turn the page and start new -- I think it's now.
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CEJacket Letterman 
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Actually... that whole damn baseball field should be annexed by the Ford Environmental Engr building. Danny Hall's domain is simply an incredible waste of good campus land and resources. -CE
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texstinger Member 
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No coach in the history of Tech, in any sport, has wasted as much talent as Hall. He is the king of the preseason rankings, we throw a banquet for outselves, thump our chests for beating umd or some directional college from the north and then screws it up at the end. He is the product of the Rice culture that beating ugag does not matter, even with a trip to the CWS on the line, much less pride on the line. And like Gailey, he sees nothing wrong. He has an attitude that has to be removed from the GTAA. It must be gone for the good of the players, the fans, the school, the pocketbook. He does not understand what beating ugag means, and it is the most important thing in GT athletics. The acc sucks compared to it. Hall is a loser.
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33jacket Letterman 
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texstinger wrote: He has an attitude that has to be removed from the GTAA. It must be gone for the good of the players, the fans, the school, the pocketbook I know ex-players that would agree with you. 3 out of 15 3 out of 5 for perno one consistent factor in each case. The Coach.
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33jacket wrote: texstinger wrote:That stats is striking. I didn't realize it was that bad. I guess I am on the bandwagon to throw off Danny Hall. Don't think it is even close to happening, because we still are a top 30 team, but that is way underachieving for a Tech baseball program.He has an attitude that has to be removed from the GTAA. It must be gone for the good of the players, the fans, the school, the pocketbook
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