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 Posted: Sat Jan 30th, 2010 08:55 pm
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For a change a PH team actually looked like a Top 20 team in beating Wake.They looked like they were coached.When wake went to a zone-for a change, no problem.wow

Even though we still had more TOs than assists the rest of the team game was so strong( FTs-75%,defense-Wake shot BADLY, we had 8 blocks), it really didn't matter.

Maybe the most important play of game came early when Gani got the ball close with 2 men on him.Instead of forcing shot up he passed out to Bell who hit a 3 pt.Interesting it was the ONLY assist for Gani( he has far more TOs than assts in season) and only the 3 pt for Bell. But it set the tone for the game and the offense.MUCH smarter and smoother.

Udofia still is struggling somewhat.He got picked TWICE on his dribble(not good for a PG) and he took 2 quick 3 pt shots,missed, that led directly to  runbacks by wake when his rebounders weren't set.NOT smart,esp by a PG. 

Oliver could be big time scorer at Tech.He came in and scored 5 pts in 70 seconds on a 3 and then a drive-flip 2.Later ripped their zone with a 3.

If we hit our FTs,and play smart this is a dangerous team.

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Two in a row great games.  The team is really starting to come along.  I am starting to believe a little that we could make a 16 run, and an ACC run.  My only concern is the ACC sucks this year.  We have a bunch of pretty good teams.  Duke is about a top 15 team, WF, FSU, and Clemson are top 30 teams, and we are the question mark IMO. 



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Tech Head wrote: Two in a row great games.  The team is really starting to come along.  I am starting to believe a little that we could make a 16 run, and an ACC run.  My only concern is the ACC sucks this year.  We have a bunch of pretty good teams.  Duke is about a top 15 team, WF, FSU, and Clemson are top 30 teams, and we are the question mark IMO.
Everyone thought the Big Ten sucked.  Then they played in the post season and that perception changed.

Ask Paul Johnson if the Big Ten sucked this year.



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Georgetown showed just how good duke is this year....I just don't think any ACC team will make it to the final 4......maybe one or two will get to the sweet 16......maybe 1 to the final 8....



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gtcsrajacket wrote: Georgetown showed just how good duke is this year....I just don't think any ACC team will make it to the final 4......maybe one or two will get to the sweet 16......maybe 1 to the final 8....
Have to diagree... one game in college hoops particularly a non-conference game in the middle of conference play imo doesn't show how good or bad a team is in a particularly year.  It just shows how good on that particular day.



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I agree with BB on the whole. Though I do think the ACC is a bit down this year. The conference lacks the Dukes/UNCs of past years that have looked unbeatable. Not sure which team will make it the furthest in March. There is a lot of parity in the top 1/2 of the ACC, and any of those teams is capable, IMO, of stringing a few Ws together.

G-Town loss notwithstanding, Duke does have some quality OOC wins. They beat UConn and hammered Top-10 Gonzaga. Throw in a blowout victory over RPI No. 43 Charlotte.

The Big East is just ridiculous: 'Cuse, 'Nova, G-Town, WV, Pitt, UConn, etc. Not to mention Louisville, Cincy, Marquette. So much depth. Will be interested to see how many they get in this year.



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GTDGN04 wrote: I agree with BB on the whole. Though I do think the ACC is a bit down this year. The conference lacks the Dukes/UNCs of past years that have looked unbeatable. Not sure which team will make it the furthest in March. There is a lot of parity in the top 1/2 of the ACC, and any of those teams is capable, IMO, of stringing a few Ws together.

G-Town loss notwithstanding, Duke does have some quality OOC wins. They beat UConn and hammered Top-10 Gonzaga. Throw in a blowout victory over RPI No. 43 Charlotte.

The Big East is just ridiculous: 'Cuse, 'Nova, G-Town, WV, Pitt, UConn, etc. Not to mention Louisville, Cincy, Marquette. So much depth. Will be interested to see how many they get in this year.

In my opinion they should get a max of 5 just like every other conference.  If you can't finish in the top 5 of your conference during the regular season, why should you be in a tournament for the National Championship?  It's easy to have depth when you have 16 teams...

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If you have followed the NCAA the past 3 years the ACC has sucked.  Yes we always have one team who either wins it or gets in the final 4, but we have one of the worst records in the tourney, and we are the conference that has been upset the most.  The ACC since Tech's run to the finals has really took a big hit.  Maryland and Tech has really hurt the conference as they have dropped down a good bit. 

This year it seems the ACC is even worse.  Two the the top teams in the current ACC standings Virg. and Maryland have lost a combined 8 non-conference games.  It is not one game that shows the ACC is weak.  It is the combined non-conference games.  Look at some of the signs 

1. We lost the first ever challenge (ACC vs. Big 10) and we have played in it close to ten times  

2. Two of the top ACC teams in the standings Maryland and Virg have lost 4 non conference games a piece, 8 total.

3. The other top teams Duke lost two including a embarrassing game against GTOWN, and @ Wisconsin.  Tech lost 2 including against a .500 UGA team, and a on the bubble Dayton team who is 6th in the A-10, and beat really nobody outside of conference besides a pretty good Charl. team.  FSU probably has the best out of conference look only losing to FL, and beat a couple of good teams including Marq.  Clemson has beaten nobody out of conference and lost to Tex a&m and Ill.  We just not have looked good as a conference 

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Well I just checked and maybe it is not as bad as I stated, but still it appears we are not the conference powerhouse like we use to be in Basketball.  We are 3rd in conference RPI.  With the Big east and Big 12 a good bit above us, and us just above the SEC and big 10. 

To me the ACC is no longer a basketball powerhouse if this plays itself out again.  It would make 4 years in a row.  Baseball is what the ACC best sport is now.  Average basketball conference, and a weak football conference 



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Tech Head wrote: Well I just checked and maybe it is not as bad as I stated, but still it appears we are not the conference powerhouse like we use to be in Basketball.  We are 3rd in conference RPI.  With the Big east and Big 12 a good bit above us, and us just above the SEC and big 10. 

To me the ACC is no longer a basketball powerhouse if this plays itself out again.  It would make 4 years in a row.  Baseball is what the ACC best sport is now.  Average basketball conference, and a weak football conference 
+1 I thought I would never see the day that our basketball would fall off like this. And, this year will be no different I'm afraid for now. With the ACC trying to build our football along with baseball (which is our best sport for now, but brings no money) I still would have thought we would be just behind the Big East in basketball as far as our level of play. I know, the talent of players are more spread out among conferences now, but the ACC should still be an elite BB conference and it will be again I'm sure of it.  I guess, it's hard to try to raise the talent of play in one program without it effecting another one in the Average at best Coastal Conference

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Wake beat Gonzaga and Xavier.

ACC would have won the challenge again if not for Clemson choking away a 20-pt. second half lead vs. Illinois. Doesn't matter now, of course, but the conference was very close to winning it again.

The ACC does need to do a better job in the postseason. UNC's run last season notwithstanding, higher-seeded teams WF (Cleveland St.), FSU (Wisconsin), Clemson (Michigan), and BC (Southern Cal) took it on the chin in the first round last year. Carolina's year overshadowed it a bit, but 2009 was not a good year for the conference as a whole.

Also, because I am feeling combative :-) N.C. State lost on a half-court buzzer beater to Florida, or the ACC would have another good RPI win this year. But, of course, a loss is a loss. They did beat Marquette, however.



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Wake beat Richmond (RPI No. 39) as well. The Spiders have wins over Mizzou, Miss. State, and Florida.

Seems like the conference has held its own during the regular season, but does need a good cumulative showing in the Dance this year.

Hell, lest we forget, UNC beat Ohio State and Michigan State prior to ACC play, with a 2-point loss at Kentucky mixed in.



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GTDGN04 wrote: Wake beat Richmond (RPI No. 39) as well. The Spiders have wins over Mizzou, Miss. State, and Florida.

Seems like the conference has held its own during the regular season, but does need a good cumulative showing in the Dance this year.

Hell, lest we forget, UNC beat Ohio State and Michigan State prior to ACC play, with a 2-point loss at Kentucky mixed in.
I have not forgotten what Carolina did as well as the ACC (which, we should of never lost the Big 10 challenge, Sorry DB) but that still doesn't mean that we are down by our standards IMHO. Just ask the SEC or the Big 10 about their standards in football.

 But, I do like where you are coming from :)

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GTDGN04 wrote:
  N.C. State lost on a half-court buzzer beater to Florida, or the ACC would have another good RPI win this year. But, of course, a loss is a loss. They did beat Marquette, however.
It should have never come to that lucky buzzer beater. NCST lost because they failed  at the free throw line at the end ( sounds like a team we know when it concerns winning or losing at the free throws ) The ACC, is too up and down in our winning/losing. And, that shows up in the NCAA tournament time IMO

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