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HelluvaMGTmjr Vice President 
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wesleyd21 wrote: His penis wasn't even involved and the word RAPE is all over the damn place. All it takes is one crazy, irrational, drunk woman feeling a little guilty about cheating on her boyfriend. I'm calling BS on this one. Just my opinion.
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wesleyd21 Letterman 
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his name is ruined no matter what. Unfair if the vaginal bruising was not caused by him.
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HelluvaMGTmjr Vice President
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wesleyd21 wrote: his name is ruined no matter what. Unfair if the vaginal bruising was not caused by him. If it is outer vaginal (aka labia) bruising then sounds like things did indeed get really rough, if its inner then you've got a hard sell to make.
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rainman Letterman 
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wesleyd21 wrote: His penis wasn't even involved and the word RAPE is all over the damn place. Wesley, Remember those antiquated sodomy laws. They couldn't get Genarlow Wilson on rape, but got him convicted on another charge, locked him up for 10 years, no parole, and labeled him as a SEX OFFENDER. It took the State Supreme Court to get him out of jail. If it had been traditional intercourse, he would have had a misdemeanor, but because it was oral sex, 10 years, sex offender. thwg74 from her location is quite familiar with the Marcus Dixon case. I think he just got out of prison and is headed toward Hampton. Couldn't convict him of rape, but got him on child molestation and statutory rape. This guy had a scholarship to Vanderbilt. Supreme Court again did the right thing. All us humans end to make poor decisions regarding the male-female interface, especially when sex, alcohol and drugs are involved. Women certainly had a difficult time in the past getting their cases heard and justice delivered. Now, in my view, the tables are turned. All a woman has to do in the workplace is play the "girl"card and the man is guilty and might very well lose his job. No court, no jury, just her word against his.
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rivalfan1 Letterman 
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Just a general repy, this reminds me soooo much of what almost happened to a friend of mine in college who came up to meet with one of the girls in our little group. She flirted heavily with him all night, made out, sat on his lap, and invited him to HER apartment and then HER bedroom (at which point we booked it, thinking everything was okay). Both were pretty damn drunk, but it was 3:30 in the a.m. and he had the invite (she certainly seemed okay with it), and both were coherent (i.e. not passing out drunk). Another of my girlfriends called her up to the next morning to see how things were and though she wasn't hysterical she was weapy and crying and did through out "rapish" allegations like HE DID THIS or HE TOUCHED THERE, etc. (w/o going into detail). Now I know both of them, and she is a bit of a headcase (God bless her, but has real religious/guilt type issues). Point being, even though the two were actually cool (though she was standoffish) the next day when we all went to the beach, there certainly could have been a rape charge filed. It was he said/she said. I doubt charges would have resulted in a conviction (she invited him to her place/her bedroom), no bruises or signs of struggle, and they had made out all night long, but you can see how easily it can happen to anybody. And worse yet, had it been HIS APARTMENT and HIS ROOM, then things get even stickier. And truth be told, the girl involved God bless her, if you had asked her straight up that next MORNING, she would have probably agreed that she had been violated, that's what alcohol and guilt can do. It wasn't until another girlfriend REMINDED her of HER OWN BEHAVIOR the previous night, that she backed off a bit and calmed down. Even though she looked coherent, she really didn't remember what happened UNTIL AFTER someone took her through it (i.e. you told us to leave and invited him to your room, even after he offered to sleep on the couch). It really is a scary situation for all parties, as I'm sure for every girl who forgets the next day her own actions there are two that are literally passed out and are taken advantage of. Moral. Unless you are in a relationship with her, do not hook up with a sloppy drunk girl, even if she "wants it". Midly drunk with her friends giving the "okay", debatable, drunk off her butt with no other witnesses in sight, RUN. Just not worth it. Moral 2. Nothing good (NOTHING GOOD) happens after 3 a.m. NOTHING.
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LongforDodd Letterman 
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thwg74 wrote: As a woman, I am very offended that any of you would make assumptions that she is a "crazy irrational woman" (Double B) or that she was asking for it because she was not paying attention (HelluvaMGTmjr). How f***ing dare you! I am only disagreeing with the "...have no control part" of your post. She had control until she lost control of herself.
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HelluvaMGTmjr Vice President
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rivalfan1 wrote: Moral. Unless you are in a relationship with her, do not hook up with a sloppy drunk girl, even if she "wants it". Midly drunk with her friends giving the "okay", debatable, drunk off her butt with no other witnesses in sight, RUN. Just not worth it. Well, 90% of my college hookups just got blacklisted!
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LongforDodd wrote: thwg74 wrote: Yes, from the facts that have been released, there is no evidence that she had no control over what was going on. She may have regretted what she was doing while doing it, but it doesn't appear she had no control to stop if she really wanted to. Unless the bruising was external, there is no physical evidence of restraint and there hasn't been anything said about threats.
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Double B Administrator 
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From what we know so far, a conviction appears extremely doubtful. Things may change as more evidence comes out and we certainly don't know what really happened. But this sounds very shaky and I'd like to know why it took 2 months to file charges unless they were waiting to see if someone would inadvertently make an admission or an informant would step forward.. I don't put any credence in the fact that she was crying and carrying on after this if alcohol was involved. Have seen normal, happy people drink too much and start crying uncontrollably over the most trivial things and sometimes over nothing at all. Alcohol immediately cuts a person's credibility in half no matter who they are.
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wesleyd21 Letterman
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She was cheating on her boyfriend. Her emotions would be rattled, after the fact, no matter what hapenned.
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HelluvaMGTmjr Vice President
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Double B wrote: Have seen normal, happy people drink too much and start crying uncontrollably over the most trivial things and sometimes over nothing at all. Alcohol immediately cuts a person's credibility in half no matter who they are. Especially women! (no offense THWG), and especially women cheating on their boyfriend! I have lost many buzz's trying to rationalize with a drunk irrate girlfriend. They simply won't listen to reason. All emotion. Those Oglethorpe women need to stay at Oglethorpe. Last edited on Wed Jul 2nd, 2008 05:15 pm by HelluvaMGTmjr ____________________ The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else." Teddy Roosevelt |
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HelluvaMGTmjr wrote: Double B wrote:Have seen normal, happy people drink too much and start crying uncontrollably over the most trivial things and sometimes over nothing at all. Alcohol immediately cuts a person's credibility in half no matter who they are. Hey now, I married an married an Oglethorpe woman.  I will admit though, in my experiences while dating my wife, the women on that campus are overly dramatic about things.
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WrecksNEffect Letterman 
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rainman wrote: wesleyd21 wrote:Marcus Dixon GRADUATED from Hampton University (a D1-AA Black College) with a 3.3+ GPA, was an Academic All-American, Team Captain, and NEVER ONCE got into any trouble at all during his 4 yrs. at Hampton U.His penis wasn't even involved and the word RAPE is all over the damn place. He got a Free Agent Contract with the Dallas Cowboys (I think) and is on their 85-man Camp Roster trying to make their team.
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Double B Administrator
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rainman wrote: wesleyd21 wrote:His penis wasn't even involved and the word RAPE is all over the damn place. Georgia laws are out of control. For example lets say a 60-year old man who is a pastor and has lived a wonderful life and is respected by everyone who has ever known him and he's loved and cherished. He has half a dozen glasses of win at home with family and friends and makes the mistake of getting into his car and going to the store to pick up a birthday came he ordered for his daughter that he forgot to pick up earlier in the day. On the way home he runs a red light and tragically kills someone. They do a DUI test and he's at .08 or over. Probably a 99.9% chance of conviction and after that he does a MANDATORY 12 year sentence NO PAROLE. Yet, some scumbag can crawl out of the gutter, rape, sodomize and beat an 8-year old girl and with good behavior get paroled in 10 years or less. Welcome to the Bible Belt and thank you Mothers Against Drunken Driving.
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WrecksNEffect wrote: rainman wrote:wesleyd21 wrote:Marcus Dixon GRADUATED from Hampton University (a D1-AA Black College) with a 3.3+ GPA, was an Academic All-American, Team Captain, and NEVER ONCE got into any trouble at all during his 4 yrs. at Hampton U.His penis wasn't even involved and the word RAPE is all over the damn place. Since I am from Rome, I can verify that you have your facts in order, including the part you were not sure about. He was in fact, signed as a free agent by the Dallas Cowboys. The word in Rome was that the girl's father was such a racist that when he found out a black man had sex with her daughter, it was immediately rape in his mind. The girl was so afraid of her father that she went along with it and charges were soon filed. While found innocent of rape, the DA tricked the jury into a lesser charge that was actually worse than the rape charge, unbeknownst to the jurors, some who were outraged or wept openly at the sentencing.
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thwg74 Member 
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I served on the marcus dixon grand jury and no they most certainly did not do the right thing. What you know about the case, you have read online or in the papers. You didn't see what I did and you certainly don't know the whole story. This was his third sexual offense on school grounds and the only one that was reported to the Floyd County police department or school board. Don't talk about a case that you don't have intimate knowledge of.
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thwg74 Member
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HelluvaMGTmjr wrote: Double B wrote:Have seen normal, happy people drink too much and start crying uncontrollably over the most trivial things and sometimes over nothing at all. Alcohol immediately cuts a person's credibility in half no matter who they are. No offense taken. I have also seen this happen more often than I would like to remember. This is why I choose to not drink much at all, I don't like not being in control of myself and my actions. If only college age girls would realize that awful things can happen when you put yourself at a disadvantage by drinking until you don't know what is going on. It is sad to me.
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HelluvaMGTmjr Vice President
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thwg74 wrote: I served on the marcus dixon grand jury and no they most certainly did not do the right thing. What you know about the case, you have read online or in the papers. You didn't see what I did and you certainly don't know the whole story. This was his third sexual offense on school grounds and the only one that was reported to the Floyd County police department or school board. Don't talk about a case that you don't have intimate knowledge of. Wow, what are the chances!? Small world.
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thwg74 Member
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WhiteGoldSphinx wrote:
I had also heard that her father was an awfully racist person. I know of one girl in particular that went to high school with him and was very intimidated/scared by him because of the awful things he would say to girls on a regular basis and the way he had exposed himself on numerous occasions before this incident. I am of the opinion that in this area (may be widespread throughout high schools) that SOME athletes are allowed to do just about whatever they want. It hasn't been that long ago that I was in high school and I remember some things that make my skin crawl. Again, this subject touches a nerve with me because of what I saw/heard that was never allowed into testimony. Here is the link to the snopes webpage on the case: http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/dixon.asp Last edited on Wed Jul 2nd, 2008 07:18 pm by thwg74 |
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zanner Letterman 
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After reading the AJC writeup, I don't know if I buy this thing. I felt very skeptical with the Duke Lacrosse players and this is how I feel about this one. It's too wishy washy based on her statements and what allegedly happened.
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