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MissBeeStung Member 
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Double B wrote: thwg it was an enlightening exchange and glad we can end it on a positive note. Talk about enlightening! Really, it should be "enlightened". DoubleB, this is my favorite post of the thread! You are a renaissance man and dead on the money. If I didn't know better, I would think you are flirting! If my husband dies (or I get sick of him first), I am looking you up. 
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geebee2 Letterman 
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Yep my wife became a football fan once we started dating and I can say that DB's theory is fact.  Last edited on Tue Jul 1st, 2008 09:25 pm by geebee2 |
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ShutUpMutt Member 
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The AJC story talked about how the victim had a boyfriend but still went to Tarrant's room. Her friends saw her leave with him and then come back. Just a theory here, but could she be falsely accusing him in order to justify having sex with him to her boyfriend? Sounds like a motive to me.
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Tech Head Letterman 
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geebee2 wrote: TMI Gee!
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HelluvaMGTmjr Vice President 
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Well, here are the details. Its a somewhat convincing story, though its hard to imagine forced oral sex on a woman. Vaginal bruising doesn't sound good, but it could just as easily have been from her boyfriend. http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/metro/atlanta/stories/2008/06/30/georgia_tech_tarrant_rape.html "I drank alcohol at the party so it wasn't hard for him to get me to go to his room," she wrote in her first statement. Hmmmmm.... Last edited on Wed Jul 2nd, 2008 01:02 pm by HelluvaMGTmjr ____________________ The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else." Teddy Roosevelt |
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vamosjackets Letterman 
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Shutupmutt, I thought the same thing. At first, I wanted to reserve all judgement b/c if it happened, I didn't want to be on our player's side just because he's our player and if rape occurred, he needs to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. But, like Helluva said, forced oral sex just sounds EXTREMELY fishy and very "unrape-like". This is probably bad to say, but it sounds like he didn't do a good job of it, doesn't it (vaginal bruising). That would be a serious catalyst to say stop. Sounds like she wasn't saying stop at first. It's not like your pants come with an automatic remove button. Last edited on Wed Jul 2nd, 2008 01:08 pm by vamosjackets |
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BUZZingFAN Letterman 
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HelluvaMGTmjr wrote: Well, here are the details. Its a somewhat convincing story, though its hard to imagine forced oral sex on a woman. Vaginal bruising doesn't sound good, but it could just as easily have been from her boyfriend. The facts, as presented in the article, make conviction a tough task in my opinion.
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HelluvaMGTmjr Vice President
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vamosjackets wrote: Shutupmutt, I thought the same thing. At first, I wanted to reserve all judgement b/c if it happened, I didn't want to be on our player's side just because he's our player and if rape occurred, he needs to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. But, like Helluva said, forced oral sex just sounds EXTREMELY fishy and very "unrape-like".
There is a HUGE leap from "touching" to oral, especially on a woman. This does sound a little fishy. No intercourse either. And who the hell forces oral upon a woman? Last edited on Wed Jul 2nd, 2008 01:10 pm by HelluvaMGTmjr ____________________ The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else." Teddy Roosevelt |
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BUZZingFAN Letterman
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vamosjackets wrote: Shutupmutt, I thought the same thing. At first, I wanted to reserve all judgement b/c if it happened, I didn't want to be on our player's side just because he's our player and if rape occurred, he needs to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. But, like Helluva said, forced oral sex just sounds EXTREMELY fishy and very "unrape-like". Agreed on the first part. At this point, it sounds like the girl is going to have to do a lot of convincing on the witness stand, or there needs to be signs of a struggle on either Tarrant or the victim to corroborate her story. I'm not a legal expert by any sort of the imagination, but it just seems like a 'he said-she said' would be VERY tough to get a conviction.
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HelluvaMGTmjr Vice President
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One possible scenario: They get it on, she suddenly thinks about her boyfriend, feels guilty and leaves. Maybe she told him to stop and he thought he could persuade her otherwise by taking a few extra "swipes" at her but she's not budging and finally squirms away (this isn't rape). She's real upset and feels super guilty so she drunkenly throws the "R" word out, her friends freak out, take her home, she sticks to her story "for the girls" but maybe they get her boyfriend involoved and thats when she has to go through with it to save face and her boyfriend, or maybe her friends keep on her about reporting it and she gives in. All of this happened while she was still intoxicated. Or maybe he really held her down and performed oral on her against her will. I still don't think you can throw a man in jail w/ such little evidence. Apparently intercourse never happened, so vaginal bruising would seem to be irrelevant. The whole "I was drunk so it was easy to get me in his room" bit is real fishy, sounds like she's making a plea to her boyfriend that she didn't know what she was doing more so then giving evidence. Last edited on Wed Jul 2nd, 2008 01:18 pm by HelluvaMGTmjr ____________________ The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else." Teddy Roosevelt |
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4NCsAndCounting Letterman 
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I thought the same here. What's the definition of rape according to the law? Does it have to include intercourse? Worst case scenario, couldn't he only be charged with aggravated sodomy and not rape (which is bad enough)? I really can't believe a prosecutor would want to try this case. There's alcohol involved, witnesses, and admitted consensual sex. It comes down to he said/she said. Only those two will know if he really didn't stop when she asked if that's indeed what happened.
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vamosjackets Letterman
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The thing is, rape is the ultimate selfish sexual act. Performing oral sex is the ultimate unselfish sexual act. They just don't mix. That's why I'm drawn to the conclusion that she wanted it and then he was pretty bad at it (not unusual for a young man) and she was able to regain self control, starts feeling regret, and wanted to stop. He may have taken a few extra moments to try and see if he could make her want it again, which would make that part of her statement true but also would make his statement true that ultimately he stopped. This would not be rape imo. It also fits into the fact that SHE HAD A BOYFRIEND, and it would be soooo convenient to play the victim. I hate to jump to that conclusion or any conclusion. Obviously, I don't know jack squat about the situation. Last edited on Wed Jul 2nd, 2008 01:33 pm by vamosjackets |
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HelluvaMGTmjr Vice President
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vamosjackets wrote: The thing is, rape is the ultimate selfish sexual act. Performing oral sex is the ultimate unselfish sexual act. They just don't mix. That's why I'm drawn to the conclusion that she wanted it and then he was pretty bad at it (not unusual for a young man) and she was able to regain self control and wanted to stop. He may have taken a few extra moments to try and see if he could make her want it again, which would make that part of her statement true but also would make his statement true that ultimately he stopped. This would not be rape imo. Right on. She said stop, he may have tried to convince her otherwise but to no avail and she eventually squirmed away and left in a hurry. Thats not rape, if thats what happened. And her comments that she didn't want to report it because he would get kicked off the team are a little weird too...had she truly been raped, I don't think this would have been on her mind at all, and it shows she did not appreciate the consequences of her accusations, I mean getting kicked off the football team are the least of his worries! This is obviously a sensitive subject for guys as well as women, though totally different perspectives on the situation. I am very skeptical.
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Double B Administrator 
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MissBeeStung wrote: Double B wrote:thwg it was an enlightening exchange and glad we can end it on a positive note. I am flirting and while you are looking up I will be looking down. 
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Double B Administrator
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vamosjackets wrote: The thing is, rape is the ultimate selfish sexual act. Performing oral sex is the ultimate unselfish sexual act. They just don't mix. That's why I'm drawn to the conclusion that she wanted it and then he was pretty bad at it (not unusual for a young man) and she was able to regain self control, starts feeling regret, and wanted to stop. He may have taken a few extra moments to try and see if he could make her want it again, which would make that part of her statement true but also would make his statement true that ultimately he stopped. This would not be rape imo. It also fits into the fact that SHE HAD A BOYFRIEND, and it would be soooo convenient to play the victim. Reading this scenario it has excessive alcohol consumption written all over it 'cause it is very convoluted. If there wasn't alcohol, drugs or other mind altering substances in the world then attorneys would starve. If it goes to trial we may see it on TV 'cause Court TV will be all over this one.
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4NCsAndCounting Letterman
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Double B wrote: MissBeeStung wrote:Double B wrote:thwg it was an enlightening exchange and glad we can end it on a positive note. DAYEM!!! Alright you two, cold water please...
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Double B Administrator
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Be interesting to see what percentage of rape charges end up with convictions compared to other felonies. My guess is that the rape charges are considerably lower than the others for many different reasons.
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wesleyd21 Letterman 
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His penis wasn't even involved and the word RAPE is all over the damn place.
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MissBeeStung Member
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Double B wrote: MissBeeStung wrote:Double B wrote:thwg it was an enlightening exchange and glad we can end it on a positive note. This is a lot of fun! You rock, DoubleB!
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MissBeeStung Member
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4NCsAndCounting wrote: Double B wrote:MissBeeStung wrote:Double B wrote:thwg it was an enlightening exchange and glad we can end it on a positive note. It's all harmless fun! Keeps me occupied while waiting for the fall.
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