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Weis IS NOT the OC at ND.  Just like Fridge was not the OC at Maryland.  Weis will develop a QB but he's got an OC to put gameplans together.

Will he change that ... he could and he might.  Who knows, he might take over the OC job but I doubt it ... it's way too much.

I bet he goes after a HIGHLY REGARDED OC if things don't move forward this season.

Then why the fuck have you personally talked about how Weis' offensive mind would give tenuta fits for TWO years straight now??



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And what have Weis's offenses been ranked the past two years?

 

People always forget that Willingham had one good recruiting year, b/c of the luck he experienced his first season from the defensive players davie had recruited. 

 

ND's lack of depth right now, and the fact that 31 Frosh and Soph. started against us saturday really shows the effects of Ty's lack of recruiting efforts.

 

Also, Ty's first year was probably the best O-Line they had.  What amazing line recruits did Ty pull in?  From what I see, that has been their biggest weakness, besides their defense the past couple of years.

 

Also, do you not remember that ND had to start a RB at LB last year b/c of the lack of depth. 

 

UNBELIEVABLE....and again Ty didnt recruit Brady...Brady practically begged to play at ND.  He wasnt even offered until another team mate got Ty to offer him.

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jacketkev05 wrote: blackprix wrote:
Weis IS NOT the OC at ND.  Just like Fridge was not the OC at Maryland.  Weis will develop a QB but he's got an OC to put gameplans together.

Will he change that ... he could and he might.  Who knows, he might take over the OC job but I doubt it ... it's way too much.

I bet he goes after a HIGHLY REGARDED OC if things don't move forward this season.

Then why the fuck have you personally talked about how Weis' offensive mind would give tenuta fits for TWO years straight now??

Weis isn't the OC...but he runs the offense.  Basically the OC at ND really isnt a normal OC. 

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GTBUBBA84 wrote: jacketkev05 wrote: blackprix wrote:
Weis IS NOT the OC at ND.  Just like Fridge was not the OC at Maryland.  Weis will develop a QB but he's got an OC to put gameplans together.

Will he change that ... he could and he might.  Who knows, he might take over the OC job but I doubt it ... it's way too much.

I bet he goes after a HIGHLY REGARDED OC if things don't move forward this season.

Then why the fuck have you personally talked about how Weis' offensive mind would give tenuta fits for TWO years straight now??

Weis isn't the OC...but he runs the offense.  Basically the OC at ND really isnt a normal OC. 
EXACTLY my point. It is Weis' offense even if he isn't the OC. When it fails it is square on his shoulders.



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jacketkev05 wrote: GTBUBBA84 wrote: jacketkev05 wrote: blackprix wrote:
Weis IS NOT the OC at ND.  Just like Fridge was not the OC at Maryland.  Weis will develop a QB but he's got an OC to put gameplans together.

Will he change that ... he could and he might.  Who knows, he might take over the OC job but I doubt it ... it's way too much.

I bet he goes after a HIGHLY REGARDED OC if things don't move forward this season.

Then why the fuck have you personally talked about how Weis' offensive mind would give tenuta fits for TWO years straight now??

Weis isn't the OC...but he runs the offense.  Basically the OC at ND really isnt a normal OC. 
EXACTLY my point. It is Weis' offense even if he isn't the OC. When it fails it is square on his shoulders.


Yep...thats what Weis said.  He was the first one to say so.  I am not arguing that.

 

I am just arguing that he is a great coach.  His talent right now is very young b/c of a lack of recruiting by Ty

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GTBUBBA84 wrote: And what have Weis's offenses been ranked the past two years?

 

People always forget that Willingham had one good recruiting year, b/c of the luck he experienced his first season from the defensive players davie had recruited. 

 

ND's lack of depth right now, and the fact that 31 Frosh and Soph. started against us saturday really shows the effects of Ty's lack of recruiting efforts.

 

Also, Ty's first year was probably the best O-Line they had.  What amazing line recruits did Ty pull in?  From what I see, that has been their biggest weakness, besides their defense the past couple of years.

 

Also, do you not remember that ND had to start a RB at LB last year b/c of the lack of depth. 

 

UNBELIEVABLE....and again Ty didnt recruit Brady...Brady practically begged to play at ND.  He wasnt even offered until another team mate got Ty to offer him.

That may be. My point is who is to say that Ty wouldn't have achieved the same success the last two years? He BUILT Stanford (won more than Bill Walsh and Dennis Green to name a few) who hadn't been relevant since Elway left. He is building something at Washington as well. Ty ws given a raw deal and Weis is not the savior. To be good at ND these days, you will have to pull some strings behind the scenes like Holtz did.



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GTBUBBA84 wrote: jacketkev05 wrote: GTBUBBA84 wrote: jacketkev05 wrote: blackprix wrote:
Weis IS NOT the OC at ND.  Just like Fridge was not the OC at Maryland.  Weis will develop a QB but he's got an OC to put gameplans together.

Will he change that ... he could and he might.  Who knows, he might take over the OC job but I doubt it ... it's way too much.

I bet he goes after a HIGHLY REGARDED OC if things don't move forward this season.

Then why the fuck have you personally talked about how Weis' offensive mind would give tenuta fits for TWO years straight now??

Weis isn't the OC...but he runs the offense.  Basically the OC at ND really isnt a normal OC. 
EXACTLY my point. It is Weis' offense even if he isn't the OC. When it fails it is square on his shoulders.


Yep...thats what Weis said.  He was the first one to say so.  I am not arguing that.

 

I am just arguing that he is a great coach.  His talent right now is very young b/c of a lack of recruiting by Ty
Could be. Where is the evidence that Weis is a great coach. I tried to document his entire career several posts ago. Do you just have a feelign that he must be a great coach because he's been with winners his whole life or do you have some proof?



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jacketkev05 wrote: GTBUBBA84 wrote: jacketkev05 wrote: GTBUBBA84 wrote: jacketkev05 wrote: blackprix wrote:
Weis IS NOT the OC at ND.  Just like Fridge was not the OC at Maryland.  Weis will develop a QB but he's got an OC to put gameplans together.

Will he change that ... he could and he might.  Who knows, he might take over the OC job but I doubt it ... it's way too much.

I bet he goes after a HIGHLY REGARDED OC if things don't move forward this season.

Then why the fuck have you personally talked about how Weis' offensive mind would give tenuta fits for TWO years straight now??

Weis isn't the OC...but he runs the offense.  Basically the OC at ND really isnt a normal OC. 
EXACTLY my point. It is Weis' offense even if he isn't the OC. When it fails it is square on his shoulders.


Yep...thats what Weis said.  He was the first one to say so.  I am not arguing that.

 

I am just arguing that he is a great coach.  His talent right now is very young b/c of a lack of recruiting by Ty
Could be. Where is the evidence that Weis is a great coach. I tried to document his entire career several posts ago. Do you just have a feelign that he must be a great coach because he's been with winners his whole life or do you have some proof?


The offensive production he has had the past two years.  Especially when you consider that last year, their line was TERRIBLE.

Their offense went from mediocre, and one of the worst in CFB to one of the best producing in one year. 

Brady went from a sub-par QB to one of the best.

ND went from getting blown out by Syracuse to only losing to top 5 teams, minus MSU, in OT.

ND's style of play has obviously changed for the better. 

Brady himself even said he didnt feel as though he was being coached until Weis came in.  Why is it that all his players credit him as a good coach, if he isnt a good coach.

At least you can say that he is much better than Ty.

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GTBUBBA84 wrote: jacketkev05 wrote: GTBUBBA84 wrote: jacketkev05 wrote: GTBUBBA84 wrote: jacketkev05 wrote: blackprix wrote:
Weis IS NOT the OC at ND.  Just like Fridge was not the OC at Maryland.  Weis will develop a QB but he's got an OC to put gameplans together.

Will he change that ... he could and he might.  Who knows, he might take over the OC job but I doubt it ... it's way too much.

I bet he goes after a HIGHLY REGARDED OC if things don't move forward this season.

Then why the fuck have you personally talked about how Weis' offensive mind would give tenuta fits for TWO years straight now??

Weis isn't the OC...but he runs the offense.  Basically the OC at ND really isnt a normal OC. 
EXACTLY my point. It is Weis' offense even if he isn't the OC. When it fails it is square on his shoulders.


Yep...thats what Weis said.  He was the first one to say so.  I am not arguing that.

 

I am just arguing that he is a great coach.  His talent right now is very young b/c of a lack of recruiting by Ty
Could be. Where is the evidence that Weis is a great coach. I tried to document his entire career several posts ago. Do you just have a feelign that he must be a great coach because he's been with winners his whole life or do you have some proof?


The offensive production he has had the past two years.  Especially when you consider that last year, their line was TERRIBLE.

Their offense went from mediocre, and one of the worst in CFB to one of the best producing in one year. 

Brady went from a sub-par QB to one of the best.

ND went from getting blown out by Syracuse to only losing to top 5 teams, minus MSU, in OT.

ND's style of play has obviously changed for the better. 

Brady himself even said he didnt feel as though he was being coached until Weis came in.  Why is it that all his players credit him as a good coach, if he isnt a good coach.

At least you can say that he is much better than Ty.

Time will tell. My opinion of Weis' is right time, right place.



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jacketkev05 wrote: blackprix wrote:
Weis IS NOT the OC at ND.  Just like Fridge was not the OC at Maryland.  Weis will develop a QB but he's got an OC to put gameplans together.

Will he change that ... he could and he might.  Who knows, he might take over the OC job but I doubt it ... it's way too much.

I bet he goes after a HIGHLY REGARDED OC if things don't move forward this season.

Then why the fuck have you personally talked about how Weis' offensive mind would give tenuta fits for TWO years straight now??

 

Because I was under the impression he was calling the plays .... that's why the fuck I said that.

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GTBUBBA84 wrote:
Brady himself even said he didnt feel as though he was being coached until Weis came in.  Why is it that all his players credit him as a good coach, if he isnt a good coach.

At least you can say that he is much better than Ty.


You can read all about what Brady thinks of Coach Weis and how he points directly to him for his success.  Weis also was the person that had something to do with drafting Brady in the 7th round of the draft.

I'll post some links for you to read from NE players as to the worth of Coach Weis at NE ...



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blackprix wrote: GTBUBBA84 wrote:
Brady himself even said he didnt feel as though he was being coached until Weis came in.  Why is it that all his players credit him as a good coach, if he isnt a good coach.

At least you can say that he is much better than Ty.


You can read all about what Brady thinks of Coach Weis and how he points directly to him for his success.  Weis also was the person that had something to do with drafting Brady in the 7th round of the draft.

I'll post some links for you to read from NE players as to the worth of Coach Weis at NE ...

How bout we talk about the FACTS that I mentioned earlier. It's pretty easy to pat people on the back when you win championships.

Our sales guys have great months all the time because of the hard work of our engineers mostly. They get complements every time the sales numbers come out. of course they did some things right, but it wasn't their show.



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QBs have to be groomed and developed.  Brady came out of Michigan with some positive skills but Weis honed those skills and made him better.

Brady and Weis are very much alike ... they work very hard to be good and put in a lot of time and effort to make that happen.

Brady connected immediately to Weis because of that and he's straight up and no nonsense guy.

 



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blackprix wrote: QBs have to be groomed and developed.  Brady came out of Michigan with some positive skills but Weis honed those skills and made him better.

Brady and Weis are very much alike ... they work very hard to be good and put in a lot of time and effort to make that happen.

Brady connected immediately to Weis because of that and he's straight up and no nonsense guy.

 


Sooooooooo what you are saying is that you don't want to debate facts or you couldn't find all of these links that you were talking about?

 



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jacketkev05 wrote: blackprix wrote: QBs have to be groomed and developed.  Brady came out of Michigan with some positive skills but Weis honed those skills and made him better.

Brady and Weis are very much alike ... they work very hard to be good and put in a lot of time and effort to make that happen.

Brady connected immediately to Weis because of that and he's straight up and no nonsense guy.

 


Sooooooooo what you are saying is that you don't want to debate facts or you couldn't find all of these links that you were talking about?

 

 

debate facts ... I told you Brady gives all the credit to Weis for his NFL development.

I will find the links ... and post here later.



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blackprix wrote: jacketkev05 wrote: blackprix wrote: QBs have to be groomed and developed.  Brady came out of Michigan with some positive skills but Weis honed those skills and made him better.

Brady and Weis are very much alike ... they work very hard to be good and put in a lot of time and effort to make that happen.

Brady connected immediately to Weis because of that and he's straight up and no nonsense guy.

 


Sooooooooo what you are saying is that you don't want to debate facts or you couldn't find all of these links that you were talking about?

 

 

debate facts ... I told you Brady gives all the credit to Weis for his NFL development.

I will find the links ... and post here later.


You mean forget about this thread and hope everyone else does the same damn thing?



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jacketkev05 wrote: blackprix wrote: jacketkev05 wrote: blackprix wrote: QBs have to be groomed and developed.  Brady came out of Michigan with some positive skills but Weis honed those skills and made him better.

Brady and Weis are very much alike ... they work very hard to be good and put in a lot of time and effort to make that happen.

Brady connected immediately to Weis because of that and he's straight up and no nonsense guy.

 


Sooooooooo what you are saying is that you don't want to debate facts or you couldn't find all of these links that you were talking about?

 

 

debate facts ... I told you Brady gives all the credit to Weis for his NFL development.

I will find the links ... and post here later.


You mean forget about this thread and hope everyone else does the same damn thing?


What????????????????????????????????????????

How can anyone forget this thread?????????

Weis has been a very good coach as a TOP RATED assistant in the NFL ... IMO he will be a very good coach in college -

 



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blackprix wrote: jacketkev05 wrote: blackprix wrote: jacketkev05 wrote: blackprix wrote: QBs have to be groomed and developed.  Brady came out of Michigan with some positive skills but Weis honed those skills and made him better.

Brady and Weis are very much alike ... they work very hard to be good and put in a lot of time and effort to make that happen.

Brady connected immediately to Weis because of that and he's straight up and no nonsense guy.

 


Sooooooooo what you are saying is that you don't want to debate facts or you couldn't find all of these links that you were talking about?

 

 

debate facts ... I told you Brady gives all the credit to Weis for his NFL development.

I will find the links ... and post here later.


You mean forget about this thread and hope everyone else does the same damn thing?


What????????????????????????????????????????

How can anyone forget this thread?????????

Weis has been a very good coach as a TOP RATED assistant in the NFL ... IMO he will be a very good coach in college -

 



Nice use of the question mark junior.

Weis has been an average coach and my post shows that WITH NUMBERS! He will be average in college.

Maybe this will work better: pretend like you are a lawyer and you are trying to PROVE that Charlie Weis is a great coach. How would you do that?

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