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Wrecks, thanks for admitting you were incorrect. I appreciate it. As for the methodology, I'm no expert on sports psychology or how to motivate players, but I expect that the reason he was put at #2 is to see how he handles it and to motivate the other QBs. Some sort of combination of the two. I don't know if he was trying to send a message to the other guys that they need to step up, or what. I don't have any inside information. I would never have expected Manley to suit up for the team, so I didn't think he would be #2. Obviously, I thought Garner would get that shot but he transferred. That leaves Booker and Ingram, and of those I would've expected one of them to be #2. All I can say is that the Spring depth chart doesn't mean that much at the beginning, means a bunch more at the end (incumbents have a big advantage in the fall), and means alot more after a week of practice in the fall. I expect you'll see the depth chart as Bennett, Booker, Ingram/Threet as we leave the spring, and then everything is up for grabs past from Booker on down once Nesbitt gets here. 3518, you can count this as a response to you, to.
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TechPhi97 wrote:Wrecks, thanks for admitting you were incorrect. I appreciate it. Garner didn't just decide to TRANSFER! CCG ran him off in order to CREATE SPACE at the #2 QB slot for ST; CCG told Garner and Manley they would never play for GT; Manley decided to stay, I assume because he's so close to his degree and was never a D1-A prospect to begin with, as far as Garner he was the top QB signee/committment for Florida before Zook got axed, Urban came in a wanted more mobile QBs and told him to look elsewhere; JG was the number 1 or 2 QB in the state of Fla. his senior yr. and most projected him to have the talent to be at least a 2 yr. starter for an UPPER TIER SEC SCHOOL; JG has a lot of FB pedigree and thinks he can play D1-A CFB at a high level which is why he transferred out. You are mistaken to think he transferred out at the thought of being #2 QB; had he been #2 he would have definitely stayed and competed for the starting job, he only transferred AFTER CCG told him he would never play for GT. Last edited on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 05:09 pm by WrecksNEffect |
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Garner didn't just decide to TRANSFER! I'm sorry I got you so mad about that, but I didn't infer anything about Garner transfering. I simply said that he transferred. Where did you learn that Garner and Manley were told they would never play at GT? Obviously someone else has a shot at being the #2, as Booker seems to have passed Ingram and Threet in reps at practice. Now, the next thing I'm going to say isn't a knock on Garner, I'm just setting you straight with some facts. When Garner graduated, he was ranked the #42 QB prospect in the country (at Scout). There were, in fact, 5 other QBs that were rated ahead of him. They were: Harrison Beck (#11), Carlton Hill (#13), Jarrett Brown (#29), Mike Greco (#30), and Carlton Jackson (#41). I'm not sure why Garner's rankings went down, as during his junior year he was invited to the Elite 11 camp in Vegas and he got an offer from Miami, but obviously something happened that he dropped. Trust me, I was excited when Garner came here, but it evidentally hasn't panned out. Every roster in the country has guys that don't pan out. Remember these guys from the class of 2000 (which I thought was a great class): Jimmy Dixon (#2 RB in the country) Hobie Holiday (#5 LB in the country) Brandon Sumner (#9 QB in the country) Derrick Mincey (#80 DT in the country) Reggie Koon (#31 OL in the country) Or, what about can't miss prospect Selwyn Scott, the #17 DB in '99.
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Trust me, I was excited when Garner came here, but it evidentally hasn't panned out. Every roster in the country has guys that don't pan out. Remember these guys from the class of 2000 (which I thought was a great class): TechPhi, every single quarterback we've had since Gailey has been here hasn't panned out. Notice a common denominator? The only QB that panned out since Gailey came to Tech was Andy Hall and had to go elsewhere to excel. The one individual who hasn't panned out more than anybody regarding out QB position is Gailey. Chan Gailey is the one who hasn't panned out. Chan Gailey has yet to recruiting, train, develop and nurture a successful quarterback for Georgia Tech in the 5 years he has been here. So you are asking us to believe that Garner didn't pan out when the guy who made the decision has been totally incompetent in developing and evaluating quarterbacks. Sorry, I wasn't born last night. Suggs didn't pan out, Ball didn't pan out, Bilbo didn't pan out, Carter didn't pan out, etc. etc. etc. etc. Don't you ever get tired of trying to prop up that loser? Gailey is the Anna Nicole of Georgia Tech. Sometimes you just got to let go and move on.
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Trust me, I was excited when Garner came here, but it evidentally hasn't panned out. Every roster in the country has guys that don't pan out. Remember these guys from the class of 2000 (which I thought was a great class): I'm not saying that we've had great QB play here, all I'm saying is that Garner transferred and it didn't pan out. I happen to think that Coach Bond is going to make a huge difference in our QB play, based on what I'm hearing out of him. He has me optimistic. I always disliked Gailey as the OC, and I gave Nix a chance last year but I'm glad that he is gone. Between the two of them, they didn't get the job done developing our QBs. That being said, Bond sounds like a hands-on guy that actively works on mechanics with the QBs, including after practice. I think we will see a better-coached QB next year, and it should make our offense much better. I'm cautiously optimistic.
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The one individual who hasn't panned out more than anybody regarding our QB position is Gailey. Chan Gailey is the one who hasn't panned out. Chan Gailey has yet to recruit, train, develop and nurture a successful quarterback for Georgia Tech in the 5 years he has been here. So you are asking us to believe that Garner didn't pan out when the guy who made the decision has been totally incompetent in developing and evaluating quarterbacks. Sorry, I wasn't born last night.
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I happen to think that Coach Bond is going to make a huge difference in our QB play, based on what I'm hearing out of him. He has me optimistic. I always disliked Gailey as the OC, and I gave Nix a chance last year but I'm glad that he is gone. Between the two of them, they didn't get the job done developing our QBs. Here's what I have seen: O'Brien was here for 1 year as the OC then left, Nix was the true OC for 1 year and left. From what I heard neither one of them felt Gailey gave them the autonomoy to be successful. Bond may be a talented guy but I question that he will thrive under Gailey when the other 2 haven't.
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BB, I think it remains to be seen if Taylor has been developed properly. I couldn't agree with you more that our QB play was not consistent, and our playbook seemed to be very limited for Reggie - all signs that he wasn't developing. I'm not willing to believe that Taylor will somehow be an amazing QB, as I've only got one full game as a reference point. Let's face it - he was lucky to complete some of those throws, because Superman was catching them. However, he did make some great, online throws in that game that we hadn't seen all year, so I'm cautiously optimistic that he'll be able to perform. To sum up - I agree with you on general offensive development. I think Gailey has owned up to that, although it seems like Nix wasn't doing a great job as QB coach either. I'm much happier that we have an older OC/QB coach now, someone with a history of success.
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BB, it certainly remains to be seen whether Bond will have enough autonomy. I know that Nix ran the offense last year, but I think his "junior" status to Gailey still made him uncomfortable. I still think he did a poor job of developing the QB, as well. I think Bond has a chance to be different because (1) he's a teaching coach, a true coach, and (2) he's older and more experienced, so he has "earned" more autonomy through his overall body of work in the profession. We will see. If Bond leaves because he doesn't feel like he owns the offense, then we're in a world of hurt here. If he does well and is allowed autonomy, even if he leaves after 2-3 years, I think we're good because we can attract another good OC.
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TechPhi97 wroteWhen did Gailey "own up"? The only thing I heard the PUTO say was that he would never be OC and HC again. I guess for 4 years you could say the PUTO lied! That's just one of his lies or if you like his statements about what he wanted to accomplish at Tech. Another of his out right lies was that he was going to retire at Tech then he prostitutes himself with Pitt and Mia another of his lies. Lets just admit it now the guy is lying PUTO!
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Fogy, last year before the season he admitted that it was too much to handle and that he should've handed off OC responsibilities earlier. There was a big article in the AJC about it.
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That being true which it probably is, then why did the guy take 4 years to realize it? Could you say the guy is stubborn, does not know how to hire the right people for the job, does not know QB's, that's just a few of his traits, none of which a HC should exhibit!
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TechPhi97 wrote: Fogy, last year before the season he admitted that it was too much to handle and that he should've handed off OC responsibilities earlier. There was a big article in the AJC about it. Funny, he realized it was too much but after he supposedly turned over the OC job to Nix - he still went after the NFL jobs. This guys is so full of crap he could fertilize for FREE all GA farmers needs. 
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TechPhi97 wrote: BB, I think it remains to be seen if Taylor has been developed properly. Taylor didn't have a good game, in reality he played 1 good half (the first half) then WV adjusted and Taylor didn't get much done in the 2nd half. What if Taylor caught lightning in a bottle and struggles next year? I just can't see the percentage in running off Garner when Taylor is nowhere close to being a sure thing and there's no other experienced or proven backup. We need numbers. Taylor may play well for a couple games then get hurt and be out for the year. Then what? TechPhi, you and all your buddies on HIVe kept using the excuse for Reggie his first couple years that it took that long to learn the offense. Booker and Threet have both been here a couple weeks. So how the heck are they going to know the offense? Garner knew the offense. Threet and Booker don't. So based on the reasoning I saw you and your buddies use for a couple years about Reggie learning the offense Booker and Threet are probably not in any position to be useful this year. All we'll hear is the same excuses about how "they have to learn the offense." "Be patient, give them time, give Chan a couple more years while Threet and Nesbitt learn the offense." You can see it coming a mile away.
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BB, I think it remains to be seen if Taylor has been developed properly. I think I agree with you in my previous post that I'm not sold on Bennett's abilities just yet, taking the WVU game as the only example of his work. I think he's got a good chance to get better, if his work ethic is what other people are saying it is. So, I don't know why you're arguing with me here - we agree. I'm just an optimist and you're a pessimist, which is our major difference it seems. As it relates to freshmen playing QB (or point guard, for that matter), I've never been nor will I ever be a fan of that. Even looking at Tebow and Stafford, they were decent but not terriffic in their freshmen years. Its just so hard to be good at that position when you're so young. Would I like to have seen Garner stick around? Absolutely. Between Booker, Ingram, and Garner, I thought Garner would have the best shot at being good. However, I don't evaluate talent for a living and I didn't go to practice last year. However, I've always said that I wanted Garner to stay. I'm certainly not sold on Threet or Nesbitt, either. Finally, I would say that Booker and Ingram have as good a chance as Garner to know the offense - they've both been practicing for a year, and Garner for two. I would even give Booker an edge because he's actually older than Garner and has spent 3 years learning offenses. I don't think you can say that Booker or Ingram haven't learned the offense, unless you know their work habits and watch film with them.
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