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 Posted: Mon Mar 19th, 2007 02:19 am
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Anybody who pays ANY attention to GT football would have known immediately that depth chart was put out BEFORE  practice began.......and has NOT been changed since.

Anybody who depends on this board for information as to what GT is doing is like the blind men who try to determine what an elephant looks like by feeling only one part of him.

Wake up! If you really want to know what's happening at Tech, go watch the practices.........or at least read reports by people who have actually been there.

Ramblinwreck.com is available to anybody free of charge. Check the roster and depth chart there regularly and you'll know when they change.

Furthermore, Threet was placed at the @2 slot because he was the unknown.....and coaches wanted him to get enough reps so they could make an EDUCATED judgment on where he stood. Booker, OTOH, was a walk-on transfer.......so he was put in the least advantageous position. That does NOT mean that no one was watching him. It does mean that he has earned his way up the chart. Furthermore, it means that if he could do it, anyone can do it......... if he is GOOD enough.

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 Posted: Mon Mar 19th, 2007 03:27 am
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If Gailey was making evaluations on Threet  based on workouts before spring practice, he's in violation of NCAA rules.

I wouldn't argue about Manley. However, he knows the system and would seem to be ahead of Threet.

I'm not sure what Ingram's academic situation would have to do with his position on the depth chart.

Booker is a more experienced QB than Threet. He runs a 5.0 forty. If he plays tight end, he only see action on the scout team.

The fact is the only reason Threet is #2 is that Gailey needs to grease the skids on getting Bennett out the way. Gailey figures he gets a mulligan with Threet at QB if 2007 ends up like I think it will.



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 Posted: Mon Mar 19th, 2007 04:22 am
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Taylor is the QB nobody is gonna beat him out...get over it theres no conspiracy!

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 Posted: Mon Mar 19th, 2007 12:32 pm
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Wrecks this question has already been answered.  The staff wanted to see what he could do.  Sorry you don't like the answer but its that simple.  They have gotten a good feel for him.  He is no longer number two.  Booker IMHO is number two.  He has shown good progress.  If he can get over the center exchange problem that he showed early then he will be our number two.  I thought going in Ingram was going to be our number two and it could still happen. Booker has shown so far he belongs there. 

You Chan conspiracy folks can keep doing what you do.  I need a good laugh.

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 Posted: Mon Mar 19th, 2007 12:50 pm
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geebee, here's the bottom line ...   Gailey placing Threet #2 on the depth chart was idiotic.  The kid hadn't done anything to deserve being #2.

Now the kid comes in to camp and from what you say has dropped on the depth chart.  Not good for the kid's confidence and not good for the players who have worked hard for the past 1-3 years to have a neophyte placed over them to begin with.

Gailey's ploy was a loser all around.  But no surprise there.  Ever since the Georgia game the Chanster has been on a long losing streak with 3 straight losses, whoring himself to NFL teams and not getting an offer, and now this depth chart fiasco. 



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 Posted: Mon Mar 19th, 2007 01:17 pm
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so dramatic with everything...the guys confidence will be fine

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 Posted: Mon Mar 19th, 2007 01:33 pm
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DABIZ, have you got your head where the sun does not shine? We don't whine, we don't gripe, we just point out the truth, as most even those with blinders on can see, Gailey could not coach his way out of a wet paper bag. Oh yes, PH is rapidly becoming the Gailey of Basketball!



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I don't think its anything very special or even useful....I wouldn't call a depth chart bull**** though.  At least its not at most major programs. 

You have to understand, Chan Gailey AS A QB COACH does not have a lot of credibility.  He's made what some have labeled as "bonehead" decisions.  I've talked with two of his most ardent supporters. One refuses to question ANYTHING.  The other, well even he labeled a certain situation as "questionable".  Furthermore, this "stigma", isn't anything new.  It's followed Gailey since Aikmen's very public comments in Dallas.

I don't pretty like Gailey as a headcoach.  That said, I recognzie his genius in handling RBs and orchestrating a run based offense.  I would not question ANY decision he made as far as tailback depth.  QB is another story.

And, once again, you have him (or his staff point man), making a very "questionable" call concerning the depth of the QB situation.

Don't to bring up the buttsniffers, but damn...they had arguably the number 2-3 QB in the nation show up early for spring practice.  In front of him was a senior who's only on the team because of daddy, and two decent younger guys, one of whom at least had taken snaps in a real ballgame, the other a kid who had already been in the system for about 18 months. 

 Stafford's place going into spring 4.  Stafford's place ending spring 4th.  Stafford's place starting fall practice 4.  Stafford's place leaving fall practice...co-2.  Really 2 or 3 depending. 

Point being he damn sure didn't come in AHEAD OF ANYONE.  I'll say this for most programs, regardless of the bs promises you make on the recruiting trail.  Regardless of hype.  MOST programs put a freshman BELOW YES EVEN WALKONS.  And say, "EARN IT".  And most do.  In fact the only southern program I remember doing this in recent memory is Ole Miss who promissed Schaffer the start the moment he walked on campus.  Mustain 'MAY' have been 2 by default, but I believe even he came in at the bottom of the charts.  Same with Tebow (the future mutt spayer).   

Gailey's way, well its different (maybe backwards).  And, given his track record at QB (and QB only), I think it is very justifiable to look at this one and scratch your head and go, "Um...wait...what?!?".

It's just another in a  LONG LINE of questionable "decisions" concerning the development and handling of the QB position.   

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It's just another in a LONG LINE of questionable "decisions" concerning the development and handling of the QB position.
Gailey obviously is STILL in over his head on the college level with handling the QB situation.  To put it in layman's terms, he doesn't know what the hell he is doing.

Gailey's handling of the QB situation since he's been here is so bad that anyone has the ability to quetion his moves.  See the garbage truck pull up with the 2 guys jumping out with no  teeth who are emptying your can?  Either one of them can question every single move Gailey makes regarding the QB situation 'cause Gailey hasn't proven to be any smarter or have any more knowledge of the QB situation than the guys dumping your garbage.



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dabiz, someone has to be concerned about this team.  You and a lot of the Tech fans are too eager to accept mediocrity.  Too eager to keep the status quo. 

The main reason why we criticize Gailey a lot is because it is such a target rich environment.



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 Posted: Mon Mar 19th, 2007 03:43 pm
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WrecksNEffect wrote: BBuzzOFF wrote:
http://www.cstv.com/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/geot/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/depth-chart

dabiz?

geebee2?

DeTechtive?

vamosjackets?


How do you gentlemen RECONCILE what is on this updated depth chart vs. your comments based on "PRACTICE REPORTS"?

How can CB end up #5 on the depth chart, when it was reported that he is CLEARLY playing better than JG ever did?

Has the QB position under CCG become like the QB position at USC-w or at Louisville, or LSU?

I doubt it!

How does ST "maintain" his #2 slot despite all the PRACTICE REPORTS that clearly said that the "light hadn't come on" yet?

I think CCG has found another OC that refuses to demand CJT-type control over his side of the ball; that QB depth chart has CCG's chicken-shyt fingerprints all over it!

Explanations please; after all, based on you guys that actually ATTEND PRACTICE, and based on what has been written, there is seemingly no way that anyone can justify that QB depth chart!

Do you guys still think JG had sour grapes?


WRECKSNEFFECT-

First of all, from what everyone else has said, this is obviously not a current depth chart (I don't know, I didn't look at it).

Second - Where did I say anything about the pecking order of the quarterbacks? Where did I say I had been to practices?

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I'm not accepting mediocrity...I'm not even a huge CG fan, I think he is a decent coach and I think we could have better but I still think things are going in the right direction...the talent influx will help alot we are starting to get depth at every position and we are more talented now then we have been in years!

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WrecksNEffect, you should do a little investigation before you blow your top.  The depth chart that you see on that link is not, in fact, updated every day after practive.  In fact, it is exactly the same depth chart that was placed out there two weeks ago before practive started.

As proof, go ahead and Save the file to your computer.  Right-click on it, and Select "Properties".

Now, select the "PDF" tab and look at the date the file was last modified.  I'll write it down for you so you don't have to look it up if you don't want to:

Thursday, March 01, 2007, 1:15:32 PM.

That is the same time it was created, so it hasn't been modified once since practice started.

Please take it easy before you have a heart attack, and try to at least do a little homework before calling people out.



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3518 and bbuzz, please read my earlier post to "prove" that the depth chart was created on March 1, rather than blasting away at your conspiracy theories. 



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TechPhi, you are the one who was passing around the rumor last year that Garner had no arm and that is why he wasn't playing.  Until someone close to the program came on and blew you out of the water.

Still haven't figured out why you spread untrue rumors about players' skills.




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You need to re-read my post. Threet is #2 on a chart that was issued before Spring Practice. Why is he #2? Did Gailey hold illegal workouts? He's ahead of 3 players who've at least seen the speed of the college game. How is that possible unless he's being readied for the top spot?



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TechPhi97 wrote:
WrecksNEffect, you should do a little investigation before you blow your top.  The depth chart that you see on that link is not, in fact, updated every day after practive.  In fact, it is exactly the same depth chart that was placed out there two weeks ago before practive started.

As proof, go ahead and Save the file to your computer.  Right-click on it, and Select "Properties".

Now, select the "PDF" tab and look at the date the file was last modified.  I'll write it down for you so you don't have to look it up if you don't want to:

Thursday, March 01, 2007, 1:15:32 PM.

That is the same time it was created, so it hasn't been modified once since practice started.

Please take it easy before you have a heart attack, and try to at least do a little homework before calling people out.


Your logic is sound, and I admit to being WRONG for assuming it was current!

Please answer this question:

How does an early enrollee T-Fr. end up #2 on the DEPTH CHART at QB of a BCS conference school; without ever WEARING A UNIFORM and doing anything between the white lines?

Please explain CCG's methodology?

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Wrecks, go back and read the BOTTOM part of my previous post. That will answer your question.

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JackintheBox wrote:
Wrecks, go back and read the BOTTOM part of my previous post. That will answer your question.

Do YOU think that is an INTELLIGENT STRATEGY on behalf of CCG in order to create an environment where EVERYONE strives to be the best QB they can?

IF you do think that strategy is indeed "intelligent"; then why ISN'T that same strategy employed for the OTHER 21 POSITIONS on the GT FB Team/Depth Chart?

Why is the QB position the only one on the team where these types of "Depth Chart Hijinks" takes place?

Last edited on Tue Mar 20th, 2007 03:38 pm by WrecksNEffect

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TechPhi, you are the one who was passing around the rumor last year that Garner had no arm and that is why he wasn't playing.  Until someone close to the program came on and blew you out of the water.

Still haven't figured out why you spread untrue rumors about players' skills.

Um....WHAT?  The backpeddaling would make Bunger sigh in disgust.  I love how you change an argument (with a lie) when you are wrong.  Classic.

I have never spread any sort of untrue rumor about Garner's skills.  In fact, I've often stuck up for the kid because I like that his dad was his HS coach and that Miami and Florida were on him early.  I thought he was a smart kid, and that's great for a QB.

What I have said in the past are two things, both of which were public knowledge.  One is that I called into a recruiting radio show on 680 when Garner signed, was very excited, and asked Jamie Newberg what he thought of us getting Garner.  His direct response to me was that Garner needed to work on arm strength, but he was a good QB.  In fact, there is a Lunch Bunch report on the Hive that has notes from an interview with Newberg where he says the same thing; here's the link: http://mb16.scout.com/fthehivefrm2.showMessage?topicID=245.topic
18. Now that Todd Walker is off the scope GT is in it for Jonathan Garner, a big southpaw from Mainland HS in Daytona Beach, FL. He was originally committed to play for Ron Zook at UF but when Urban Meyer was hired he decided to revoke the scholarship offer to Jonathan (not as mobile as Meyer wants) and so Jonathan is looking elsewhere and we're in pretty good shape with him. Jonathan is a good QB who may lack a bit in the arm strength department but he's very smart and a student of the game and that counts for a HUGE amount in college football.

The other thing that I found on Garner was his own profile on Scout, where he says he wants to improve his arm strength.  You can find the link here: http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=376&p=8&c=1&nid=1167904.

I've also said in the past that I don't think his arm strength is a huge deterrent to his doing well, as good reads, intelligence, and a quick release can make up for any issues with arm strength.  In fact, you can look at the following link to see where I said that:  http://p089.ezboard.com/The-Curious-Case-of-Jonathan-Garner--MORE-LIES/fbuzzofffrm2.showMessage?topicID=3971.topic

My understanding is that Garner was considered to have great arm strength when he was a junior, but those assessments continued to change as he got older.  End of Senior year in high school it was "good", and in college it was "average".  I have no idea what that means.

Regardless, don't be calling me out for something that I clearly didn't do.



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