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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 06:59 pm |
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Double B Administrator 
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Hey look, I'm not comparing Jaybo's skills in any way to Drew Brees, that would be insane. But the conventional thinking is that in the NFL you got to be 6'4"+ with an Adonis physique to be a great QB. I stood within a couple feet Drew Brees for 5 minutes when he addressed the media after the Saints between the Falcons a couple months ago. Drew Brees is about the same height and weight as Jaybo. Drew Brees all 6'0" of him outplayed the big, stud, prototypical NFL QB with the daddy who mentored him on the art of playing QB since birth. We'll see how Jaybo does this spring now that he's healthy but one thing I can tell you is that he's plenty big enough to play QB at Georgia Tech and he's plenty big enough to play as good or better than the other back-ups who are bigger. The competition will be decided on the field and not on message boards. Decision making is more important in our offense than sheer size and speed and decision making is what wins games. Look at yesterday's game where the big, stud Manning the guy who God built to play QB when the game was on the line he made a poor decision and it cost his team the Super Bowl. The little guy who a lot of people questioned whether or not he was big enough to play in the NFL outplayed Manning and his team won. Mental toughness and decision making is as important as physical ability and athleticism..
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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 07:11 pm |
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The Champ Member
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Brees isn't trying to run 20 times a game. Jaybo needs a little more ass in his pants if you ask me (lower body strength).
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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 07:14 pm |
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babuka Member 
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Double B wrote: Hey look, I'm not comparing Jaybo's skills in any way to Drew Brees, that would be insane. But the conventional thinking is that in the NFL you got to be 6'4"+ with an Adonis physique to be a great QB. Manning was not the problem. His receivers were the problem. His receiver ran a poor route and tipped the DB off and he jumped the route on the INT. Not to mention the Colts recievers having hands of stone and not getting any seperation in their routes. I understand the point of your post and I am not disagreeing with the premise of it, but Manning is still better than Brees, one game does not change that. But Brees is playing better than every other QB in the league right now counting Tom Brady. If Jaybo could throw the ball 60 yards, run a 4.4, and could break an arm tackle no one would care about his size. His problem is not his size, 190-200 lbs is plenty big enough to break tackles, but he has played smaller than his size when he was in the game. I am not saying he can't be good. I believe in what hard work and dedication can do for one's game. He was just not there as of last year and he has a lot more competition now. (BWT, I will give some credit to Sean Payton for calling good games all year long. It seems like he always calls plays that get the Saints receivers in wide open spaces 10-20 yards downfield.) Last edited on Mon Feb 8th, 2010 07:17 pm by babuka |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 08:13 pm |
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Architorture Member
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injury reports don't lie. concussions and broken collarbone point to Jaybo being too small and/or fragile. I know injuries happen to even big strong guys, but those two specific injuries worry me for Jaybo's size and durability.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 08:53 pm |
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wesleyd21 Letterman 
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Wanna know why Drew Brees is the best quarterback in the NFL? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVoqA-LKGb4
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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 09:05 pm |
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Peyton is the best in the league, you are insane if you say otherwise. Look at the 2008 year for proof. 1. Brady's backup Matt Cassel took his team to an 11-5 record. The team is stacked. Oh yah, Cassesl's last start had been a SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL! 2. Peyton Manning took a depleted running game, depleted WR core and carved an MVP year. Look back at this past season: Manning took the team with the WORST rushing attack to the SUPER BOWL! That is literally unheard of. The best defensive player on the team, Bob Sanders was out the whole year too. Look at the game last night: It wasn't Manning missing tackles. It wasn't Manning fumbling onside kick recoveries. Manning made one bad pass and all of sudden he's not a HOFer? What are you guys smoking? You do realize Sean Payton made that ridiculously stupid onside kick call because he was afraid of Manning! Manning's so good he forces coaches to call stupid calls. It happened earlier in the year when Belicheck went for it on 4th down in Indy. And don't tell me the onside kick call by Sean Payton was a great call, because it wasn't. Even though it worked, it was stupid. Even though going for it on 4th and 1 against Wake worked, it was still the worst call in CPJ's career at GT. I'm not one of those guys who think a play working automatically makes the call a good coaching decision. I'm also not one of those guys to put the full blame on a QB. Peyton Manning only attempted two passes in the 2nd quarter. Thats his defensives fault, not his. If Brady or Brees were on the 09 colts, they would have lost in the first round of the play-offs, if they even made it. Put Manning on Brady's Patriot teams and hes got Belicheck about 5 or 6 rings. Belichick even admitted they tried to run the Colts type offense where Brady called the plays like Peyton and it didn't work. Brady couldn't do it. Last edited on Mon Feb 8th, 2010 09:06 pm by bleedgoldandwhite21 ____________________ To Hell With Georgia! GO JACKETS!!! |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 09:09 pm |
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HelluvaMGTmjr Vice President 
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Architorture wrote: injury reports don't lie. concussions and broken collarbone point to Jaybo being too small and/or fragile. I know injuries happen to even big strong guys, but those two specific injuries worry me for Jaybo's size and durability. +1....and let me add: my own eyes point to Jaybo being too fragile. He gets tossed around like a rag doll. Babuka nailed it....he plays smaller than his size for some reason...he just doesn't take hits well either. That's why I still have hope for Jordan despite the similairites to Jaybo...and maybe he can pass better too. Brees has nothing to do with Jaybo. This is just silly. Sorry BB...I don't know where your love fest of Jaybo comes from. Im sure he is a super nice guy and his family is great and all, but....people said the same thing about Gailey and that never stopped "us" from calling a duck a duck. Last edited on Mon Feb 8th, 2010 09:13 pm by HelluvaMGTmjr ____________________ Fair and Balanced |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 09:12 pm |
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HelluvaMGTmjr Vice President
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babuka wrote:
Great post. I agree completely. Who knows how things will work out, but I'm not counting on Jaybo starting in 2011...at least not the Jaybo of 2008...I know a lot can happen in 3 years, so we will see. Maybe he will up his physique/toughness.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 09:13 pm |
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4NCsAndCounting Letterman 
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DCS, you somehow missed this topic in your "I've got a bad feeling" thread. Oh boy...
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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 09:14 pm |
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bleedgoldandwhite21 Member
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Yah, I've met Jaybo. Cool kid. Future starting Qb for GT? Not a chance. Maybe in a passing offense, but not CPJ's. The QB has to be tough, mentally and physically. I'm not questioning Jaybo's mental toughness, but his injuries lead me to believe he's not physically tough enough for the job.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 09:15 pm |
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HelluvaMGTmjr wrote: ...he just doesn't take hits well either. this is what I see as well. some guys are very good at avoiding the big squared-up hits. they turn their bodies at the last second, or they juke slightly or whatever, and its hard to square up on them. Jaybo doesnt seem to be one of these guys.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 09:19 pm |
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4NCsAndCounting Letterman
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Architorture wrote: HelluvaMGTmjr wrote:That's a point I'll disagree on. I've seen Jaybo in several practices do a great job avoiding hits AND taking a pounding and jump right up like it was nothing....he just doesn't take hits well either. I was there when the collarbone was broken and it was a flukish play where a lineman fell on him, wasn't even within contact of a play. It happens, ask Colt McCoy. He's may not be Nesbitt tough but not many are.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 09:28 pm |
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dressedcheeseside Letterman 
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4NCsAndCounting wrote: DCS, you somehow missed this topic in your "I've got a bad feeling" thread. Oh boy...Ah yes... The monthly "we can't win with these slow, weak, small, no talent, white boys" thread. And its the same guys carrying the torch as usual. Now ain't that special.... How in the world did I miss that one? 
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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 09:32 pm |
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HelluvaMGTmjr Vice President
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dressedcheeseside wrote: 4NCsAndCounting wrote:DCS, you somehow missed this topic in your "I've got a bad feeling" thread. Oh boy...Ah yes... Hey now...I didn't start it! But I will dang sure end it! Jaybo ain't the future. End of discussion.  Last edited on Mon Feb 8th, 2010 09:33 pm by HelluvaMGTmjr ____________________ Fair and Balanced |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 09:34 pm |
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HelluvaMGTmjr Vice President
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4NCsAndCounting wrote: Architorture wrote:HelluvaMGTmjr wrote:That's a point I'll disagree on. I've seen Jaybo in several practices do a great job avoiding hits AND taking a pounding and jump right up like it was nothing....he just doesn't take hits well either. Practice?! Practice??!!! Did someone say Practice??!! 
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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 09:43 pm |
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4NCsAndCounting Letterman
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HelluvaMGTmjr wrote: 4NCsAndCounting wrote:Yes, it was practice. The same place Nesbitt's been hurt before. I've seen MJ, Sedric Griffin and the Gladiator clean his clock multiple times.Architorture wrote:HelluvaMGTmjr wrote:That's a point I'll disagree on. I've seen Jaybo in several practices do a great job avoiding hits AND taking a pounding and jump right up like it was nothing....he just doesn't take hits well either.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 09:49 pm |
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HelluvaMGTmjr Vice President
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4NCsAndCounting wrote: HelluvaMGTmjr wrote:4NCsAndCounting wrote:Yes, it was practice. The same place Nesbitt's been hurt before. I've seen MJ, Sedric Griffin and the Gladiator clean his clock multiple times.Architorture wrote:HelluvaMGTmjr wrote:That's a point I'll disagree on. I've seen Jaybo in several practices do a great job avoiding hits AND taking a pounding and jump right up like it was nothing....he just doesn't take hits well either. I could get my clock cleaned by all the above and still get up too, that doesn't qualify me for anything. Not sure what you guys see out there that some of us don't. Cuz I just don't see "it". Last edited on Mon Feb 8th, 2010 09:53 pm by HelluvaMGTmjr ____________________ Fair and Balanced |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 10:17 pm |
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stylee Member 
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Ooooh, a Jaybo discussion! Fun!! He's slippery, has some open-field speed but lacks quickness. He does play smaller than his size, good description. Makes some bad decisions in the option game; perhaps this is just a function of his forcing things when he's thrown into the mix. I hate racial stereotyping and I don't think he cleanly fits into one. The guy is NOT Drew Brees, he is not a "gritty" player, he is not a slow white boy who makes all the right decisions but lacks the natural athleticism to capitalize, etc. He can get some good yardage when he keeps the ball. He can make people miss, he runs well enough in the open field (I don't think his natural footspeed is that much different than Josh's). But he's just so skinny, seems to keep the ball too often, and doesn't run hard very naturally. There, got my Jaybo opinion out, not touching it again!
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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 10:26 pm |
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HelluvaMGTmjr Vice President
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stylee wrote: Ooooh, a Jaybo discussion! Fun!! Fair analysis.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 10:47 pm |
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everybody on this forum knows that when Jaybo came in against UGA both in 2008 and 2009 they all held their breath expecting a bone-jarring, fumble-creating hit on each and every play.
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