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gary faulkner wrote: mack wrote: buzzed02 wrote: alagold wrote: For those that think all we have to do is improve our DEF from 95 to 70 and we'll be BCS easy , dream on.Our Off will NOT score nor control ball like we did last yr.(again ,what happens if Nesbitt goes down)
I don't get why so many on this board are so pessimistic about our offense next year. Hell, we won 9 in '08 without an experienced QB. I have to assume the departures of bebe and JD is the main reason people think we'll take a step back. The loss of bebe is IMO much bigger than JD just because we some proven RBs, but our WRs are a big unknown. I think we'll see fewer dropped passes, which were something of a problem last year, because we will have some good competition for the WR spots. Stephen Hill will have a much bigger impact this year, barring injury of course, and we just need one more guy to step up.  I'm not saying the passing game will be night-and-day better than last year, but with an improved OL, I expect the offense to be AT LEAST as potent as it was last year.
I agree and the way it looks is that nobody has a great way to stop the option so after three years of play we will be ready to let it roll,yes I will miss JD and BeBe but we have some good guys left in the house and they will come through.I would think after three summers and springs we can fine tune this option to a higher level.I sure hope so.
I was told two years ago that we would have an attacking def. So far I haven't seen it.  Maybe this year.  It worked well for NO last night.
This person who told you this obviously didn't know Dave Wommack.

Al Groh's defenses have always been attacking for the most part. Did you notice his NT last year literally destroy the middle of our line. This caused Josh to not have great success on the mid-line very much.

If any of you think PJ is worried about his offense because Dwyer and BeBe are gone you're fooling yourself. Sure PJ is going to miss them as players and leaders, but that's nothing that he as a coach can't fix.

If coaches worried after losing players they'd have a short career. How will coach adapt to the loss of BeBe and Dwyer? Well easily. He replaces Dwyer with Allen who is just as capable IMO, and replaces BeBe with Hill and gives Nesbitt further coaching in the offseason so as to help him adapt to the new receiver and his abilities. That's what a coach does. Lose one players abilities and adapt the plays to the new players abilities. PJ had to do it after losing Tracy Ham, Adrian Peterson, and a slew of other great players in PJ's career.

Good coaches adapt the playbook and help the players adapt to life after great players. Good coaches also recruit more great players. Like I said coaches who don't do this will have a short career. PJ has been in the business for 29 years...hardly a short career.

So I conclude that if you think PJ in concerned about this your fooling yourself. A coach can't worry about players in which he is not their coach for his gameplan, he can only coach up the players he has.

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Yea PJ can coach but doesnt have anybody that replaces Dwyer! sry AA or DD might be good players but they are not even half the player dwyer is.

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TOHELLWITHUGA wrote: Yea PJ can coach but doesnt have anybody that replaces Dwyer! sry AA or DD might be good players but they are not even half the player dwyer is.AA is going to make us forget about JD.  Orwin is going to fill AA's old shoes at Aback.  Hill will take Bay Bay's spot, Chris Jackson will take Hill's.  The OL and QB play becomes crisper and more consistent.  We get consistent push off the LOS.  Roddy fully recovers from injury and picks up where he left off from UGA '08.  Overall the offense becomes more efficient.  The defense upgrades from pathetic to serviceable.  We get a kicker that can put the ball in the endzone 9 out of 10 times and a returner that averages 30+ yards and WE ROLL!!!

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TOHELLWITHUGA wrote: Yea PJ can coach but doesnt have anybody that replaces Dwyer! sry AA or DD might be good players but they are not even half the player dwyer is.
And? At this point we can't worry about Dwyer. Dwyer is out of the play book, and from what I have seen AA may not be as fast as Dwyer, but he runs just as damn hard.

I am over Dwyer. He's gone. Coach is over him too. If your too worried about Dwyer you'll be very surprised this year when you find out you worried for nothing.

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TOHELLWITHUGA wrote:
Yea PJ can coach but doesnt have anybody that replaces Dwyer! sry AA or DD might be good players but they are not even half the player dwyer is.
I'll take moronic, baseless statements for 1,000 Alex.



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buzzed02 wrote: TOHELLWITHUGA wrote:
Yea PJ can coach but doesnt have anybody that replaces Dwyer! sry AA or DD might be good players but they are not even half the player dwyer is.
I'll take moronic, baseless statements for 1,000 Alex.
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TOHELLWITHUGA wrote: Yea PJ can coach but doesnt have anybody that replaces Dwyer! sry AA or DD might be good players but they are not even half the player dwyer is.
It's really hard to say that considering that we've never seen either of them take a snap at BB during a d1a game. Drummond has 4 years ahead of him, and Allen proved effective as an A back and a HB at louisville.

We'll just have to see, but I think the system makes the b-back a better runner. I'm with PJ, I'll be shocked if the number 1 BB doesn't gain 1200 yards (barring injury).



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GTstang65 wrote: gary faulkner wrote: mack wrote: buzzed02 wrote: alagold wrote: For those that think all we have to do is improve our DEF from 95 to 70 and we'll be BCS easy , dream on.Our Off will NOT score nor control ball like we did last yr.(again ,what happens if Nesbitt goes down)
I don't get why so many on this board are so pessimistic about our offense next year. Hell, we won 9 in '08 without an experienced QB. I have to assume the departures of bebe and JD is the main reason people think we'll take a step back. The loss of bebe is IMO much bigger than JD just because we some proven RBs, but our WRs are a big unknown. I think we'll see fewer dropped passes, which were something of a problem last year, because we will have some good competition for the WR spots. Stephen Hill will have a much bigger impact this year, barring injury of course, and we just need one more guy to step up.  I'm not saying the passing game will be night-and-day better than last year, but with an improved OL, I expect the offense to be AT LEAST as potent as it was last year.
I agree and the way it looks is that nobody has a great way to stop the option so after three years of play we will be ready to let it roll,yes I will miss JD and BeBe but we have some good guys left in the house and they will come through.I would think after three summers and springs we can fine tune this option to a higher level.I sure hope so.
I was told two years ago that we would have an attacking def. So far I haven't seen it.  Maybe this year.  It worked well for NO last night.
This person who told you this obviously didn't know Dave Wommack.

Al Groh's defenses have always been attacking for the most part. Did you notice his NT last year literally destroy the middle of our line. This caused Josh to not have great success on the mid-line very much.

If any of you think PJ is worried about his offense because Dwyer and BeBe are gone you're fooling yourself. Sure PJ is going to miss them as players and leaders, but that's nothing that he as a coach can't fix.

If coaches worried after losing players they'd have a short career. How will coach adapt to the loss of BeBe and Dwyer? Well easily. He replaces Dwyer with Allen who is just as capable IMO, and replaces BeBe with Hill and gives Nesbitt further coaching in the offseason so as to help him adapt to the new receiver and his abilities. That's what a coach does. Lose one players abilities and adapt the plays to the new players abilities. PJ had to do it after losing Tracy Ham, Adrian Peterson, and a slew of other great players in PJ's career.

Good coaches adapt the playbook and help the players adapt to life after great players. Good coaches also recruit more great players. Like I said coaches who don't do this will have a short career. PJ has been in the business for 29 years...hardly a short career.

So I conclude that if you think PJ in concerned about this your fooling yourself. A coach can't worry about players in which he is not their coach for his gameplan, he can only coach up the players he has.
Very well said. CPJ is not sitting in a corner wringing his hands over losing a few players to the NFL. He knew this day was coming, it just came a year early. Losing Nesbitt and two experienced skill players in the same year would be worse.

We just may see more consistent 4-5 yard plugs up the middle from the B-Back position next year from teams not keying on Dwyer so much.



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Our bigger loss on O is Bebe IMO.  Not just for his big plays but he was without doubt our best skill position blocker.  BY FAR!!



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buzzed02 wrote: alagold wrote: For those that think all we have to do is improve our DEF from 95 to 70 and we'll be BCS easy , dream on.Our Off will NOT score nor control ball like we did last yr.(again ,what happens if Nesbitt goes down)
I don't get why so many on this board are so pessimistic about our offense next year. Hell, we won 9 in '08 without an experienced QB. I have to assume the departures of bebe and JD is the main reason people think we'll take a step back. The loss of bebe is IMO much bigger than JD just because we some proven RBs, but our WRs are a big unknown. I think we'll see fewer dropped passes, which were something of a problem last year, because we will have some good competition for the WR spots. Stephen Hill will have a much bigger impact this year, barring injury of course, and we just need one more guy to step up.  I'm not saying the passing game will be night-and-day better than last year, but with an improved OL, I expect the offense to be AT LEAST as potent as it was last year.


+1

When has a Paul Johnson offense not been good.  It may fluctuate from season to season, but it'll produce.   The defense is the big question.



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gary faulkner wrote: mack wrote: buzzed02 wrote: alagold wrote: For those that think all we have to do is improve our DEF from 95 to 70 and we'll be BCS easy , dream on.Our Off will NOT score nor control ball like we did last yr.(again ,what happens if Nesbitt goes down)
I don't get why so many on this board are so pessimistic about our offense next year. Hell, we won 9 in '08 without an experienced QB. I have to assume the departures of bebe and JD is the main reason people think we'll take a step back. The loss of bebe is IMO much bigger than JD just because we some proven RBs, but our WRs are a big unknown. I think we'll see fewer dropped passes, which were something of a problem last year, because we will have some good competition for the WR spots. Stephen Hill will have a much bigger impact this year, barring injury of course, and we just need one more guy to step up.  I'm not saying the passing game will be night-and-day better than last year, but with an improved OL, I expect the offense to be AT LEAST as potent as it was last year.
I agree and the way it looks is that nobody has a great way to stop the option so after three years of play we will be ready to let it roll,yes I will miss JD and BeBe but we have some good guys left in the house and they will come through.I would think after three summers and springs we can fine tune this option to a higher level.I sure hope so.
I was told two years ago that we would have an attacking def. So far I haven't seen it.  Maybe this year.  It worked well for NO last night.
Naw,we had a hit and retreat defense not a attacking one and you are right,NO went after the Colts last night.Good job on defense by NO.



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Geori wrote: People are skeptical because we are losing the #1 RB in college football, as well as the #4 WR. There's a pretty big drop off at a football factory like SC or Texas when that happens, even more so for a non-football factory like Tech.

But remember: they don't have Paul Johnson!  Who overcomes all...

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TOHELLWITHUGA wrote: Yea PJ can coach but doesnt have anybody that replaces Dwyer! sry AA or DD might be good players but they are not even half the player dwyer is.
Sorry, but Allen pounds the ball just as hard as Dwyer did. And, I've never seen him run to the wrong endzone :P

Remember the TD against Iowa? I'd say he ran damn well that game. And, if I recall correctly, he had a pretty good game against UVA.

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AA isnt half the player JD is!!sry just my opinion

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TOHELLWITHUGA wrote: AA isnt half the player JD is!!sry just my opinion
Well, I'd encourage you to re-evaluate around this time next year.

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buzzed02 wrote: That_Guy wrote: Anyone else notice that Notre Dame was even worse? Those of you calling for Tenuta to be back may want to reconsider. Where's UVA on the list?

UVA was 29th...NCST (in case we get McCollum) was 56th. Not great, but a hell of a lot better than 95th.

And that keeps us in the game with "pee-u" and Iowa and probably allows us to beat uga(g)....



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